
The Controlling Greek Mother
We have all heard stories of a young boy’s extreme attachment to his mother. But the attachment between a son to his Greek mother, or rather a Greek mother’s attachment to her son, takes on mythic proportions. Take my Theia Maria, the Kefanolitisa for instance. Even if her son is close to 40 years old, still living at home, she does not leave him alone for more than five minutes. When he is out on a random coffee date with friends (male friends, of course, to say nothing about female friends) she calls him incessantly. If he is gone for too long, (too long meaning 2-3 hours) she starts the hysterics—“My God! Something has happened to him! Where is he?—and then she frantically calls his phones, “Yie mou, paidaki mou, agori mou, where are you? I can’t live without you. You are killing me. Come home.” She resorts to all forms of emotional blackmail. She has made it plain as the light of day that she will settle with no one but a “parthena,” a virgin, for “to yioka mou.” She has embarked on a new quest—to find the ideal woman for her son. Putting aside the fact that in this day and age a virgin is hard to come by, even in the event that she were able to locate one who would pass her high standards, how would she guarantee that she were a virgin? Is there still a test for virginity, I wonder? Her virgin requirement has in a sense precluded her finding an eligible bride for her son. Her case would make Freud shake, rattle, and roll in his grave.
She is not the first case of extreme mother-son attachment that I know of. Another acquaintance I knew, a Greek professional who was about to marry a Catalan woman in Barcelona had to deal with the “mother drama” the day before his wedding. Apparently, even though his mother had agreed to the union (she had gotten on a plane to attend the ceremony), when the actual moment came to see her son go into the arms of “another woman,” she locked herself up in the bathroom and threatened to kill herself if he went ahead and “left her.” Placed between a rock and a hard place, the groom made the logical (and emotionally healthy) choice (thank God). He excused himself but said, “I love this woman; she is the closest I could find to you. Therefore, I need your blessing to marry her.” Needless to say, the mother, with this highest form of flattery, extracted herself from the confines of bathroom after she fainted and had to be dragged out. Six years and two grandkids later, she is quite happy although she does hold the symptoms of the stereotypical mother-in-law who constantly makes overt and subtle critiques, both, about her daughter-in-law’ housekeeping, cooking, child rearing, etc.
The mother vs. wife love triangle that happens to most men is universal (I believe). But what happens in Greece and in Greek culture in the Diaspora regarding the mother-son attachment has become a stereotype. Greek mother’s consciously and unconsciously hold an inordinate emotional control over their sons, and vice versa, the sons to their mothers. I have embarked on a quest to find various opinions for why this is the case.
My cousin, Smaragda, seems to hold one view. She feels that because the relationship between women and men as married couples in Greece is far from equal, the mother-wife channels her emotional needs to the one male figure she can dominate in her life—her son. It is because women in general cannot find intimacy, understanding, or happiness in their relationships with their husbands, who as far as Greeks go tend to be very patriarchal, proud, and distant, they transfer the need to control and dominate onto their sons, both as accommodation and as revenge. As Greek women also tend to be proud, independent with an excess of will power as much so as their male counterparts, and due to the fact that they cannot conquer their husbands, they turn to the one playing field they can– their sons. This serves both as satisfaction for their pent-up energies as well as a subtle form of revenge in the battle of the sexes—“I might not be able to control my husband, but I can control an extension of his, my son.”
Dimitra Demetriadis, a Greek-American psychologist living and practicing in Athens for two years, disagrees. The attachment that Greek mothers have with their sons is strong but is typical of the “normal” development to be found in other cultures, particularly other Mediterranean cultures. She dispels many of the psychological stereotypes attached to Greek families. She maintains that the Oedipal complex is a normal part of the family drama and is fairly universal in most societies, just as the Electra complex, the attachment a young girl feels towards her father, is. The only difference is that we do not harp on the Electra complex as much as the Oedipal. They are equally as strong and pronounced, yet one gets more attention than the other, making it seem as if it is more prevalent.
She does distinguish, however, between the Oedipal complex and the controlling mother, “narcissistic parenting” type as she calls it. While the Oedipal complex tends to extend to most cultures and families, the controlling mother syndrome is a pronounced Greek phenomenon, Dimitra states. While narcissistic parenting exists in both American and Greek cultures, it is a disorder that fits much better in Greece because of the tight emotional bonds that Mediterranean families promote. The ties that bind are much tighter here so independence is not perceived in the same way as it is in America. “Parents push their children to have a life, but there is no hurry,” Demetriadis states. So the question I had whether to view the extreme controlling behavior of mothers towards their grown sons as dysfunctional or just a product of the cultural context from which it exists, was somehow put to rest. Mothers can be so controlling partly because they are expected to be. Demetriadis says this sort of controlling behavior can be found in other cultures where the family bonds are very strong, such as Latin American and of course, our next door neighbor, Italy. Italian mothers, she claims, can be worse than Greek and have been known to administer corporal punishment to their sons and husbands from their domestic position of dominance.
She did shed some light on the flip side of mother-son relationships, the struggle for independence between Greek fathers and their sons. While there comes a point in both cultures when sons reach the age of manhood and have to “fight it out” in terms of male dominance, there is a difference as to what that fight looks like. In the American version, the two males cannot rule the same nest, so they have it out more aggressively and the son usually moves out and moves on. In the Greek version, due to a combination of the bleak economic forecast for financial independence for youth and the tight familial bonds, the Greek father and son have it out but there is an implied victory to make peace. The father sort of lets the son know, “I’ll let you win, but just between the two of us, we know that I let you win because I’m really the winner in this fight.”
Demetriadis points out to other cultural differences in the two countries that impact relationships. For one, there is no physical space that demonstrates an external attainment of emotional independence. In Europe and in Greece, when finding and affording your own apartment is much harder, families are packed into apartments with five or six people trying to make space and save face. The economic realities of the Greek recession also make it impossible or at least extremely difficult for young people to prove their autonomy by moving out. “Out of five people, two might have jobs and of those they might be part-time jobs cleaning houses or working at a supermarket,” Demetriadis explains. “The jobs we as Americans get at 15 or 16 so that we can make our way are the jobs Greeks get once they finish with university at 22 or 23.” It’s understandable that your mother (or father) might feel compelled to control you, to do your underwear, and shop for you under these circumstances.
So, is it fair to think the controlling mother syndrome is dysfunctional, that the independence-seeking ideal we have in the States is superior? “You can’t judge and say one is better than the other,” Demetriadis explains, “you have to look at each from the context of its own culture.”
Alright, BUT I do still think my Theia Maria is over the top.
8 COMMENTS
I believe it is unfair for the controlling mother syndrome to be dysfunctional in some way. I admit that Greek mothers can be a lot controlling but they were always like this. I think Greek mothers should be a little more open-minded and let or even push their sons to be honest and trully men one day. And also realise that some day they will get married have family move on and therefore they have to be independent. Mothers should know how to distinguish their love for their sons from what is best for them and know that their sons will always love them no matter what.
From the first line of the article till the last one I had a continuous smile on my face and I was like “haha I know what she is talking about”. Having grown up with a Greek mother, I have to admit that your’s Theia Maria has similarities with my mom Joanna…basically with every Greek mother in a different way. I believe that every “right” mother around the world wants the best for their kids (boys or girls) but when it comes to Greek mothers the situation is getting more serious as you also mentioned in the article above. Even though sometimes I feel that my mother is overprotective, I don’t get mad at her because in all these years she has done many things that prove she wants to get rid of the “Greek mother” title. I am sure that If everyone (talking about boys) spends time and discuss his problems with his mother the “Greek mother’s myth” will be just a myth in a couple of years.
As i was reading this article,i couldn’t stop thinking not one,but three friends of mine (quite older than me) who actually have to face the same problem with your cousin on a daily basis.When they first told me about what they are going through i found it quite funny since it reminded me of last century stories that my grandmother used to tell me. Unfortunately,it is not funny at all!!By having their mothers overattached with them,they don’t have a lovelife,not even as many friends as they’d like.I wish there was something i could do,but i guess there isn’t…Mindsets don’t get changed easily.
I really liked the article as it has a nice sense of humour..Living in Greece,I can surely say that Greek mothers are extremely attached to their sons but this doesn’t only happen in Grecce but also in Europe and other cultures that the family bonds are tighter,as said.I believe that the Oedipal syndrome is much more frequent here because of the econimic crisis.If the kids had the opportunity and enough money to leave ‘to patriko tous’,as Americans can, right after they finished high school they wouldn’t be so attached to their mothers and vice versa.In other words,mothers and sons are forced to have that type of bond even though the second have come to an age(18-24 years old) that they should make choices and live on their own.Even though,the frequency of this syndrome depends on the culture,the family bonds and the econimic state of a country,I still maintain that there are extreme Greek mothers that they can’t accept the fact that their sons will live without them and even worse with another woman,like Theia Maria does.
I think this dysfanctional relationship can occur everywhere if children aren’t taught how to care of themselfves from an early age so that they don’t depend on their mothers.Mothers should make sure that their child grows up to be a responsible and caring adult man so they can continue living not only as a mother but as a woman with a life of her own.
Theia Maria, while being an extreme case, a nutjob even, is a portrait of how a high percentage of Greek mothers would like to be in control. I personally never understood why parents even deserve a say on who you will choose to live life with. I fully agree with the fact that Greek sons are being prepared to live on their own in a very slow pace. Being one myself, I am 22 and already feel like I am suffocating in here, I’d love to move and live on my own, but since it is against the norm in Greece, it goes without saying that my parents would be against it, they would feel insulted and would resort to different sorts of emotional blackmail to avert me from leaving. That is the case for many young people nowadays, some get away with it by having younger parents or parents who have lived in a different society – are more open minded.
All in all good read, could definitely relate and also be jealous of the American norm on the matter =]
I am 1st generation. Parents from Greece. Most relatives from Greece. I could write a book on this subject. My ” opinion ” is just that, an opinion. I draw my feelings from my frame of reference. Not all will agree with my viewpoint. My parents are good people. Loving parents. Hard working. So are a few of my relatives. That being said, my experience with the ” Greek Community ” has been mostly negative. Let’s say about 99 %. Yes, the immigrant Greeks are hard workers, strong work ethic, etc. However, almost ALL Greeks I have come in contact with are ETHNOCENTRIC. Read that again: ETHNOCENTRIC. This does NOT mean that they feel good about their heritage. IT MEANS THAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR HERITAGE IS SUPERIOR TO OTHERS. They are extremely PRIDEFUL. Self righteous, JEALOUSY seems to be another trait that Greeks struggle with. What amazes me is that they claim to be ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS. Excuse me, PRIDEFUL, JEALOUS, GREEDY, MANY LIE THROUGH THEIR F-ING TEETH. Brag about their many successes, etc. etc. etc. AD NAUSEAM. I could go on, and on and on. These ARE NOT CHRISTIAN TRAITS !!! The are ETHNOCENTRIC, ARROGANT, RUDE, SICK BELIEFS. Let me pose this question to you. If “the greek way is the right way, why in Hell is Greece in the condition it is in??!!!! Yes, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and others were great human beings, making contributions to society. That was the “Golden Age” of Greece, it is NOT the current state of the country. In fact, the Golden Age lasted several hundred years (not 5000). and finally, JESUS CHRIST WAS NOT GREEK, GOD IS NOT GREEK, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT GREEK, THE APOSTLES WERE NOT GREEK. May God bless everyone and have mercy on everyone, NOT JUST GREEKS. EVERYONE.
Oh, I almost forgot, other cultures have made many contributions to society. MANY CULTURES !!!!
Remarking on the universality –
Reading this reminds me of a few stories from L. M. Montgomery’s “Chronicles of Avonlea”, set in late 19th & early 20th century Canada settled areas (not outback), that depicted a mother who prevents her son from marrying while she is alive through emotional blackmail. The repetition of such a tale within her collection of short stories suggests to me that Montgomery had either experienced this herself, or had heard this story told, & was so impressed by it she needed to write it out. It’s certainly a very disturbing interaction to think about.
I also hear these kinds of interactions in some mother-in-laws in Taiwan (where we do have tighter familial bonds) – in one case the girlfriend, upon finding out she was pregnant, preferred to have her child alone, & then permanently move abroad to France the child, rather than entering her boyfriend’s household.